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Gary Stoddard

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« on: September 20, 2010, 09:57:45 AM »
Hi,

    I'm new to radiologik, and I'm glad to be here in the community.
I have the demo version right now, as I am trying to get everything setup
before purchasing because I just got everything new.

    Here it goes. I have a new Apple iMac 24 in with Snow Leopard OS on it.
I am using Nicecast to broadcast and Radiologik, as the program with music and stuff.

   I am trying to running a mic signal to Radiologik. I have a Behringer Xenyx 1622FX and
have hooked that up to my Apple iMac 24in with the UCA 200 for USB compatibility.

   No matter what I try to do, I cannot for the life of me get the signal from the Behringer
to play in real-time with the Radiologik. When I put the Nicecast voice-over effect on,
I can get it to work. And when I change to "USB Audio Codec - DEMO" for the "SOURCE"
in Nicecast it works.

   I have searched all over the internet for answers to this "USB Audio Codec - DEMO",
but I haven't found anything. I was looking for the full version of the USB Audio Codec
to stop the beeping sound every 30 seconds.

   I need help. LANE are you there?

All the best,
Gary

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 04:54:10 PM »
Hi Gary

the UCA200 uses the Audio Core drivers from Mac OS X. There is no demo version,
the Xenyx mixer do not have USB - no drivers :)

This USB...DEMO driver is maybe an aggregate output.

How did you connected your hardware? Maybe the beep after 30 seconds is a feedback.

Micro in the Mixers channel 1.
Mixers main out to UCA200 IN
UCA200 OUT to a mixers stereo input, trie channel 5/6
the amp and the speakers or active speakers connect to contol room out of your mixer. if you turn your mic on you have to switch the speakers off else you get a feedback, use headphones
select in OS X Audio / Midi setup to configure the UCA200 as the system audio.
select in radiologic the UCA OUTPUT and in Nicecast the UCA INPUT.
Thats it. Now you got the full control over mixing with your mixing console. no need for the ducking funktion in Nicecast or something like that.

BUT the Sound of UCA200 is very poor. Use the built in soundcard of your iMac, this is the better and easier choice. Connect it in the same way to your mixer.

I hope this helps. If you have more questions feel free to ask.

Udo
« Last Edit: September 20, 2010, 05:12:14 PM by ueleu »

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 06:37:25 PM »
Hi,

    I really appreciate you helping me out because I am really confused.
I just got my Apple iMac Ueleu on Saturday. All of the equipment is basically new.
I do not see the Core Audio Drivers on my computer that you speak about.
Do you think I need to install Snow Leopard again? I was searching so much
and was hearing this and that. One site said to delete the "USB Audio Codec - Demo."

I did that, and I couldn't get the mixer working again, so I found a site that had
the USB Audio Codec, but it turned out to be this same demo with the beeping after 30 seconds.

I know that the Behringer doesn't come with drivers. I was told that the Apple would recognize it, but
I don't think it did unless I did something wrong with deleting an audio driver. I'm real green man
and really need help.

I downloaded a Digidesign Core Audio Driver from a website for Mac, but I don't think that will work.
I think it only works with Digidesign equipment.

I am going to add a few snapshots of my computer and the equipment hook up. You will notice that I don't
have the microphone in right now, as I know that would go into the first channel.

Hoping you can help,
Gary

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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 06:37:57 PM »
Here's another shot.

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 06:38:25 PM »
Next one.

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 06:38:51 PM »
On to the next one...

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 06:39:16 PM »
Two more.

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 06:40:12 PM »
Last one.
I do apologize for uploading all of these pics.
Let me know if you prefer for me to do it another way
next time.
Gary

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 08:17:16 AM »
It's ok to post all those pics. Whatever helps make your information clear.

Also, I'm glad ueleu can provide some information here, as I have no personal experience with your mixer and the UAC200. Please continue to add information ueleu.

I do have some things to say, which I hope offer clarity for your confusion.

First of all, let's get rid of that DEMO driver. I don't know how it got there, but after some googling, you're not the first to get this.

Check all of the following places, and remove it from there.

/Library/Extensions
/Library/Audio
/System/Library/Extensions

And then reboot. The right driver selection without DEMO should now show up. If that's ok now, let's continue.

Let's next understand the philosophy of what we're doing. We want to do the mixing in the actual mixer. And we want to monitor in the mixer.  Get your thinking away from the computer and the programs. The mixer is where it's at! :)

One thing we must do is not have more than one thing playing to our sound output. We want only Radiologik DJ playing into the mixer, not nicecast. Nicecast has a volume control right under the start button. Move that volume slider all the way down. We don't want to hear a second output from nicecast. We'll monitor using headphones on the mixer.

The next thing we need to do is play audio from Radiologik DJ into the mixer. If you wish to use the UAC200 for the output, choose that in Radiologik DJ preferences.  The sound preferences for the entire computer do not matter, except the volume levels you set in there for each one. I recommend maxing those out, and use the mixer to control the volume.  At this point, we should have Radiologik DJ playing into the mixer, and you should be able to hear that in your headphones plugged into the mixer.

Now, the output from the mixer goes into the computer through that UAC200. You want to have nicecast source set to that, as I see you've previously done in one of your pictures.

On a completely separate computer if you can, monitor the nicecast stream to confirm you hear your music and microphone being mixed together.  You could do this on your same computer, but must be sure not to listen to the wrong thing. If you set your default audio output in your mac preferences to use the Built-in Output, and then listen using itunes or some other program that can connect to your nicecast stream, you should hear it, but *it will be delayed*. This is completely normal, and not avoidable. But the audio should be in sync, meaning if you sang along to a song, it will sound right.

Does help you to understand how this should all work? If you still have questions, feel free.  And if you think I've missed something important ueleu, please jump in!
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 09:10:35 AM »
Aye Lane,

Thanks for responding. Ueleu has offered some help as well.
I did delete that USB Audio Codec - Demo but when I rebooted
there wasn't a "USB Audio Codec" to use at all, so I don't think
the Apple iMac Snow Leopard was finding the Behringer at all.

Do you have Skype or Teamviewer or something where we can
do this later live? I can pay you for your time because I know you
have your station to run.

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 09:12:56 AM »
Reboot again without the device plugged in. Once running, plug it in.

Sorry, I'm not able to do teamviewer etc.

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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 09:23:34 AM »
I'm not at home right now. So, I'll have to wait to this evening.
Do you have Yahoo Messenger or GMAIL?

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 09:28:22 AM »
Another thing is Lane. I got the mixer because I had read you other posts and replies.
They are very good. I wanted to have microphones playing in real-time, so I know you
mentioned I needed a mixer, so is this still possible. The Behringer I have has four mic inputs,
so I wanted to set my station up to have all four mics being heard with I add four condenser
mics and when it is broadcasting.

Gary

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 10:10:16 AM »
Hi Gary, Lane

Lane did a perfect job explaining what i wrote with a view words, Thank You! Because i'm a German i'm not fluent in english ;-)

I have made a little graphics that shows how to connect the hardware. If you want to use the UCA200 instead the built in audio: Just connect the cables to the corresponding connectors at the UCA200.

I hope this helps.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 10:21:10 AM »
Alright buddy,

                    You all are doing your best, but now I am really confused. Why is the mic going to channel four?
I thought it could go to channel one? Not that it really matters because in my mind, I'm thinking it could
go to channel 1, channel 2, channel 3, or channel 4, but I'm just curious why you have it going to channel four
on the mixer. The other thing is you have the "green" arrow pointing to the back of the Apple iMac.

What is that port? I was under the impression that I could use the UCA200. If not, what is that cord that
I would ask for at Radioshack because it looks like you are showing that two XLR cables are to go into the back
of the mixer, but what is the other other end of that cord to look like? This is the end that you're saying will
go to the Apple iMac.

I do not have monitors. I am using Creative Speakers with 1/8" tip. I do have an 1/8" to 1/4" to connect those
speakers to the mixer though. And what is the red are suppose to be for? I know you are showing it coming from the headphones port.

Just a bit confused. Thank you for all of your time.
Do you have an email, so we can communicate faster?

All the best,
Gary